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Reply #54 - 15. Mar 2007 at 16:05
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Marionb ,
Thank you. The best thing for us getting married here is that we will be surrounded by the people that count on our special day and not the people that feel they should come or only come to see how we do it as they won't pay for the flights to come here. Weddings don't have to be that expensive it depends on what you want and if it is what you want does it matter how much it costs?  Grin marionb wrote on 14. Mar 2007 at 15:13:
Thanks for the info. Congratulations to Lea and Lou. It is very refreshing to see the attitudes to weddings in Crete. My son married in England and it was just met with cynicism. One friend commented Why on earth does he want to do that? Why don't they just live togehter. I am now the grandmother of two beautiful grand children and the time was hurt by some of these comments. I was looking at the numbers of people who live together in crete and it is still very low. In England it is considerable.

But obviously I am old fashioned??????

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Reply #53 - 15. Mar 2007 at 11:00
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Living together is thought of as being engaged even if there's been no formal proposal. If the couple separate for any reason it's regarded as divorce.

In conversation recently we mentioned a young lady we are acquainted with and were told in disapproving tones that "she's been divorced twice." She's never been married.


That's not quite right. What they must have said is "xorise" which means "she split up" and can be used both for relationships and marriages. The proper term for divorce is "pire diazigio" and there's no way they would have said that if the couple had only been living together.
  
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Reply #52 - 15. Mar 2007 at 01:35
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Hi D Neal. In this one post you have possibly floodlit more of the "cretan way" then in any other thread I've read in this place....
  

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Reply #51 - 14. Mar 2007 at 20:33
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Know of a lot of children born to "unmarried" parents here in the East of Crete.  But then I'm not sure whether their parents may have had a CIVIL marriage some time before the church one.  People here under 40, say, tend to have 2 weddings, the civil one first & the church one later, often considerably later.  We've been to weddings recently where the couples' children,  5 and 6 years old respectively, were in attendance as bridesmaids/pages. 

Villagers do not regard a civil marriage as the real thing, so often refer to these couples as unmarried when in fact they're legally married.  Hence the inverted commas.  Those who have had ONLY a civil marriage are regarded with great puzzlement, and I know only one Greek couple in this situation.  Even those who are stronly anti-church will undertake a church wedding.  I know one mixed couple (Cretan & foreign) who had a civil ceremony only, and when their neighbours heard of the coming event, their response on hearing that it wasn't to be held in the church but at the municipal office was "Never mind"!  We've also  noticed that people give their wedding gifts (where family are concerned, often large amounts of money, or property) for the church wedding only, not the civil one.  The couple who didn't have a church wedding, and won't, will simply not receive these gifts.  It seems to be rather like a sanction! 

This is just what we've experienced & heard of first hand.  The interpretations are our own, and I'm sure an anthropologist/social scientist would make better sense of them, or at least understand the reasons better than we do.  We've been quite struck, here, by the power of tradition in the society and the difficulties experienced by those who don't "tow the line".
  
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Reply #50 - 14. Mar 2007 at 19:32
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marionb wrote on 14. Mar 2007 at 15:13:
I was looking at the numbers of people who live together in crete and it is still very low. 

Many young couples here do live together before marriage but if the girl becomes pregnant they almost inevitable get married well before the birth so very few children are born outside a marriage. Living together is thought of as being engaged even if there's been no formal proposal. If the couple separate for any reason it's regarded as divorce.

In conversation recently we mentioned a young lady we are acquainted with and were told in disapproving tones that "she's been divorced twice." She's never been married.

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Reply #49 - 14. Mar 2007 at 15:13
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Thanks for the info.  Congratulations to Lea and Lou.  It is very refreshing to see the attitudes to weddings in Crete.  My son married in England and it was just met with cynicism.  One friend commented Why on earth does he want to do that?  Why don't they just live togehter.  I am now the grandmother of two beautiful grand children and the time was hurt by some of these comments.  I was looking at the numbers of people who live together in crete and it is still very low.  In England it is considerable. 

But obviously I am old fashioned??????

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Reply #48 - 14. Mar 2007 at 14:56
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looking forward to meeting you this month then, you will probably get roped in for their move I expect.  Cheesy
  
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Reply #47 - 14. Mar 2007 at 14:50
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Jeansy,

probably sooner than that. I'm coming over 27th March for 1week. Their wedding will be my 4th visit this year.

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Reply #46 - 14. Mar 2007 at 14:32
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Hi ros21 yes I will be helping as I am the brit best man for lea, the food has been arranged at a local taverna so thankfully I will not have to worry about that. Looking forward to seeing you in november then.

Hi Marionb you  cook lots of goats the same way as 1 you gt the local ladies to boil it add veg and rice and tuck in. The lamb is even easier you chop it up into plate size pieces and clean it, soak in brine and salt it place pieces in very large baking trays put in the back of a pickup and drive to the local baker who then roasts it, simple really !!!! Tongue
  
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Reply #45 - 14. Mar 2007 at 12:03
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Sally and Marion, your description of the food at Fotinis has me drooling. I will definatly be trying to find it when I come over at the end of march. Cant wait,havent had a decent moussaka in months  Grin
  

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Reply #44 - 14. Mar 2007 at 00:25
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I do not those two people but at least they've got  their priorities right

wedding arranged
dress
furniture

How do you cook a goat?
How do you cook 80 goats?
The logistics is mind boggling

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Reply #43 - 13. Mar 2007 at 22:38
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Jeansy,
Are you helping out at Lea & Lou's wedding?  I'll be one of their guests.

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Reply #42 - 13. Mar 2007 at 21:44
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Yea Ken the weddings are interesting and is a great way to get to know the locals, the first couple of times the butchering made me go a bit green around the gills, and the smell is a bit high.
  
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Reply #41 - 13. Mar 2007 at 20:45
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Excellent description Jeansy.Sounds really good fun although I would not fancy the butchering bit.I also note that you mention that part of the cost of the wedding feast is alleviated by the money gifts and that makes sense to me. Ken.
  

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Reply #40 - 13. Mar 2007 at 19:51
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The biggest wedding that I have attended and worked on was for about 2,000 guests and completly filled the village square, with tables and chairs being borrowed from neighbouring villages. Every table had decorations and fancy wedding bread the head table was covered in flowers and ornate decorations.
As for the cost this usually falls to the family and members of the family may also donate goats and lambs etc, for this particular wedding we made 2 fridges using timber and plastic sheeting these measured about 3m x 1m x 1m and these were completly filled with red wine raki coke 7 up and bottles of water.
We butchered about 30 to 40 goats and 30 to 40 lambs, this takes almost all of the afternoon the ladies peeled and sliced more spuds than my 4x4 could carry, add in 2-3 sacks of rice which is then sorted grain by grain puddings for all it is one major undertaking , but the best part is all the village come out to help kids pensioners farmer bankers the whole community is there at some part of the day. Every single guest is served at the table by the locals with the biggest trays you ever did see.
If a family turn up at midnight a table will appear from somewhere and they all will be fed fresh food. Add into this all who work during the day are fed watered, the cooking pots are enormous and are running all day so if you ever get the chance offer your services to help you will enjoy most of it the butchering takes a little getting used to but it will be appreciated.
The money gifts help to give the young couple a head start and alleviates a part of the cost from the occasion. Just go along when invited and enjoy a real traditional wedding where everybody is there to enjoy themselves  and to give the  couple a day to remember.
  
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