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27. May 2007 at 20:58
 
Hello,  we are Matt and Nickie and we are planning to leave the UK to start a new life in Crete within the next 12 months.  Matt is currently completing a City & Guilds Plumbing qualification and would like to come out and find work as a plumber if possible.  I am a qualified trainer and am considering doing my TEFL to teach English.  We have visted Crete previously and intend to come out for a recky at the end of the summer to see where opportunities are and look at the price of property.

We both will really be interested in doing just about anything to start with, we are adaptable and friendly and would love to live in a typical Crete town and make friends with locals and expats alike.

So some questions for you good people:-

What do you think Matt chances are of finding work as a plumber either working on a construction site/project or being self-employed??? 

Could I find work as a TEFL teacher in Crete - what is the demand like and do I need to have fluent Greek??

What are the opportunities for other kinds of work (not just seasonal)?

Are we better to rent to start with and then buy something when we have found somewhere to live or just buy straightaway?

Where is property more expensive/cheaper??

Sorry for all the questions, but we don't know where to start really and just want to establish a few things before flying out to have a look for ourselves.

Thanks in advance for all your help. Smiley
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Reply #1 - 27. May 2007 at 22:05
 
matski55 wrote on 27. May 2007 at 20:58:
What do you think Matt chances are of finding work as a plumber either working on a construction site/project or being self-employed???

It will not be easy as his qualifications, however good, won't be recognised. There are Greeks who can't get UK or US degrees accepted here.
Plumbing systems here are different from the UK so there would be a learning curve, although not a steep one.
There are many plumbers here already and the fact that some are incompetent doesn't mean the builders won't use them (they're probably cousins).
To set up as self-employed will mean registering a company with the red tape and expense involved and initially, at least, the only work is likely to come from ex-pats. As most properties bought by ex-pats are new builds there may not be much need for plumbing work beyond installing a washing machine or dishwasher (and many properties have thise included anyway)

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Could I find work as a TEFL teacher in Crete - what is the demand like and do I need to have fluent Greek??

Theoretically, you should be able to teach without knowing any of the foreign language. My sister-in-law is a qualified TEFL teacher who, at the end of her course, was offered supply teaching work at the college where she qualified. She was teaching classes with five or six different nationalities so couldn't possibly speak all of those. However, most people (both in the UK and here) who know nothing about the training find it difficult to accept that it's possible to teach without some knowledge of the pupils' language.

There are many language schools and frontisteria here that teach English and you may be able to find work in one (or more) of those but you will need time to build a reputation. There are also many experienced TEFL teachers who will be competing for whatever jobs are available.

As for teaching privately you will need to allow time to build a reputation which means finding pupils who are not too sceptical about any lack of Greek and getting recommendations. My sister-in-law found that even here Greek teacher was a little doubtful about her teaching his three children. After a year he was very pleased with the kids' progress but then they decided "we want to go to a proper school with our friends" so there's more to it than just an ability to teach well

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What are the opportunities for other kinds of work (not just seasonal)?

Point one to consider is that many Cretans find it difficult to find full time, permanent employment. For non-seasonal, permanent jobs you'll need pretty good Greek if you want to work for a Greek employer. In many instances you'll need to get in line behind brothers/sisters, cousins, friends, friends of friends etc. Apart from that quite a lot of ex-pats have set up businesses here in estate agency, property maintenance, house-sitting for absent owners, gardening etc., etc. and there may be opportunities there. For most of those you won't need much Greek although it will help as you could be dealing with local suppliers and contractors.

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Are we better to rent to start with and then buy something when we have found somewhere to live or just buy straightaway?

Most people advocate renting for at least 12 months. It may depend on how well you know Crete already and how committed you are. Whichever you do I'd recommend that you bring enough money to support yourselves for a minimum 12 months, perhaps supplemented by casual or seasonal work. Then, if you get lucky and find reasonable jobs early on you're on the right side.

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Where is property more expensive/cheaper??

Generally speaking, the north coast is more expensive than the south with the western part around Hania probably the most expensive as that is where most foreigners have headed for. The further south and east you go tends to become cheaper. However, bear in mind that job opportunities will be less in the quieter areas especially if you are looking for non-seasonal work. Best chances for jobs are likely to be around Heraklion, Hania, Rethimno followed by the other 'large' towns - which aren't big compared with even small English towns.

It's a big step; don't expect it to be easy.

Good luck,
VA
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INTESOL Greece in Chania offers a variety of courses to qualify to be a teacher of English. So, whether you have time or your time is limited, INTESOL has a lot of options for you.
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If you are considering taking the TEFL/TESOL course I can highly recommend Intesol Greece as I took my course here last year.  (Google intesolgreece for info)

The school is in Hania - 5 minutes from the harbour and the accommodation in the old town is great.....

If you want to teach on Crete you would be well advised to take the full course as opposed to any of the on line courses - you'll get practice of teaching Greek students and a TESOL qualification and a teaching certificate at the end of it.

Have a look in the Athens News -printed in English - or Hanotika Nea (local Hania paper- mostly printed in Greek although some English ads) to give you an idea of the jobs available.

There have been previous posts discussing plumbing and electrical work requiring different qualifications but I can't really offer you any advce on what you need to do on this.......

Hope this helps - good luck....

Sandie


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matski55 wrote on 27. May 2007 at 20:58:
Hello,  we are Matt and Nickie and we are planning to leave the UK to start a new life in Crete within the next 12 months.  Matt is currently completing a City & Guilds Plumbing qualification and would like to come out and find work as a plumber if possible.  I am a qualified trainer and am considering doing my TEFL to teach English.  We have visted Crete previously and intend to come out for a recky at the end of the summer to see where opportunities are and look at the price of property.
Crete in summer is different in comparison to winter. spend 2 full years before selling anything back home. trust me on that

We both will really be interested in doing just about anything to start with, we are adaptable and friendly and would love to live in a typical Crete town and make friends with locals and expats alike.
best advice is both friendships at the same time. dont ignore greeks. they will consider you another brit in crete and eventually block off any possible real friends that could help
So some questions for you good people:-

What do you think Matt chances are of finding work as a plumber either working on a construction site/project or being self-employed???  
he knows the job. things might be different but i am sure he can figure out. finding a job in his proffecion is another story

Could I find work as a TEFL teacher in Crete - what is the demand like and do I need to have fluent Greek??
have you actually thought how many brits have that idea, and how many brits are in crete? personally i dont see you being able to do it successfully

What are the opportunities for other kinds of work (not just seasonal)?
hard time even for greeks. but on the other hand greeks consider them selves westerns and would not do hnd made jobs

Are we better to rent to start with and then buy something when we have found somewhere to live or just buy straightaway?
rent coz if things go bad later in 1-2 years you will have to sell

Where is property more expensive/cheaper??
north, north west more expensive. then its north, north east.
basically where ever there is a nice place people go thus more expensive

Sorry for all the questions, but we don't know where to start really and just want to establish a few things before flying out to have a look for ourselves.

Thanks in advance for all your help. Smiley

in red my reply.
good luck with it
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